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PostSubject: Re: Shiro - [Kiri Genin] Thu 31 Jan 2013, 8:59 am

Damn it. And here I was plan on stretching things out for another three weeks. :3

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PostSubject: Re: Shiro - [Kiri Genin] Thu 31 Jan 2013, 9:18 am

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PostSubject: Re: Shiro - [Kiri Genin] Thu 31 Jan 2013, 6:35 pm



  • You should add a little bit about your character's weakness in the combat style. I know it says that he prefers fighting at a distance, but a little more elaborating would be nice if you don't mind it too much. Smile

  • Name: Shunpo [Flash Step]
    Alright so, there's nothing wrong in itself with this technique except for the fact where you say that when a user has become skilled with this technique, he can move in a burst so fast that he can't be seen. First of all, it is already stated that this technique only gives 10% more speed plus the normal speed. Second of all, anyone that moves so fast that they can't be seen plus not being able to fully control their stopping or turning, could easily get themselves killed (or at least limbs broken) if they would run into something that was not made of soft flesh and breakable bones.

    I was also wondering over when you say that the user can utilize multiple steps in their burst of speed, and yet you mention that this technique is only good for really one burst. So a single post if I get it right. And thus it would be better if you could clarify what exactly you consider to be 'multiple' as that word is very vague.

    Also, what exactly is a skilled user in your opinion? Someone A rank? S rank? B rank? When would you exactly be saying "well, he's skilled enough now to take this to the highest level"?

  • Name: Danmaku [Barrage]
    This is a D rank technique, and therefore I would like a number of slices he can do at a time. At least a range of numbers. What exactly is "insane rate" to you? I honestly find it a bit harsh that a D rank technique can be able to rip his muscles, but perhaps if I get a number and can think a bit more upon it, it will all make sense to me.

    Again, what exactly is a skilled user in your opinion? Someone A rank? S rank? B rank? When would you exactly be saying "well, he's skilled enough now to take this to the highest level"?

    Also, again, this technique will never let anyone cut through steel or stone with just a normal sword. It would have to be then D - S ranked or something of the likes.

  • Name: Batto [Draw]

    Again, what exactly is a skilled user in your opinion? Someone A rank? S rank? B rank? When would you exactly be saying "well, he's skilled enough now to take this to the highest level"?

    Also, again, this technique will never let anyone cut through steel or stone with just a normal sword. It would have to be then D - S ranked or something of the likes.

  • Name: Chozou no Jutsu [Storage Technique]
    You realize this appears both in your academy list and fuuinlist? It's not a big deal, just wanted to point it out.

  • Name: Kodate [ Small Shield ]
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    unusual heat or cold, acids, poisons

    I need exact heat and cold temperatures, or a range at least. Also, acids and poisons? That is a bit vague. Can it protect against any type of acid and poisons? Or do they count towards that C rank limitation also? Although I must say, acid seems like a pretty strong thing to be protecting against with a D rank shield. And speaking of, how exactly does it defend against those things? Are you meaning if there is a poison being splashed at your guy? As I figure the shield cannot suck in a poisonous cloud?

  • Name: Bakuyuuko [Cleverly Written Bomb ]

    For a C rank technique, I find it a bit too much to have the power of 5 exploding tags if you look at what I quote below. For C ranks, we would rather go with 3 explosive notes.

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    3 Explosive Notes ─ Able to break bones, sprain joints, tear at skin, produce second degree burns and create basic concussion upon direct hit. Can damage organs if directly over them, and remove weak limbs such as fingers and toes. Reddening, knock back and skin irritation affect the target if they are within 1 meter of the explosion.
    5 Explosive Notes ─ Able to break bones in multiple locations, crack joints, tear open skin, produce third degree burns and produce unconsciousness upon direct or close hit. Can damage most organs if struck on chest. Knock back, skin tearing and second degree burns within half a meter. Reddening, knock back and skin irritation if past a meter.

  • Name: Hakushiro [White Castle]

    So does he activate the seal by placing his hand on the ground? Already have it ready on a piece of paper? Some more info on how it is activated would be nice.
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    This barrier will absorb physical and chakra-based damage as long as the user maintains it. However, due to it's quick creation, the shield is somewhat brittle, the jutsu shattering when multiple C-ranks or a B-rank based technique is used upon it. The sphere prevents gases, genjutsu, elemental techniques, weapons, and chakra attacks, but can be a draining jutsu.
    You say it is brittle, and yet it can withstand multiple (again that vague word) B and C rank based techniques? I'm afraid that is a bit too much for a C rank jutsu.

    It needs to have some sort of clear limitation, and it is also a bit too much to have it be able to absorb -anything- that's thrown it's way. Especially considering it's low rank.

  • Name: Omoifuuin - [Heavy Seal]

    This needs a Chakra upkeep per post, as your character needs to keep the seal activated in order to make it stay working.

  • The bronze visor would be considered C rank as it can protect your guy from gases, and therefore are very handy and not some basic item that you can just fling around.

    And you have already way too many C rank things. You can only start with 2 C rank item/weapons that are within the range of your dom in weaponry. And yet you have listed a plenty in those scrolls?

  • You also forgot to bold the template for your kit.
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PostSubject: Re: Shiro - [Kiri Genin] Thu 31 Jan 2013, 7:36 pm

Um. Point in informing people my weakness? Can't they figure it out on their own? Plus, can't say off-hand what my weakness is. I tend to make balanced characters. Umm...Have boobs?


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Name: Shunpo [Flash Step]
Alright so, there's nothing wrong in itself with this technique except for the fact where you say that when a user has become skilled with this technique, he can move in a burst so fast that he can't be seen. First of all, it is already stated that this technique only gives 10% more speed plus the normal speed. Second of all, anyone that moves so fast that they can't be seen plus not being able to fully control their stopping or turning, could easily get themselves killed (or at least limbs broken) if they would run into something that was not made of soft flesh and breakable bones.

I was also wondering over when you say that the user can utilize multiple steps in their burst of speed, and yet you mention that this technique is only good for really one burst. So a single post if I get it right. And thus it would be better if you could clarify what exactly you consider to be 'multiple' as that word is very vague.

Also, what exactly is a skilled user in your opinion? Someone A rank? S rank? B rank? When would you exactly be saying "well, he's skilled enough now to take this to the highest level"?

So. To start with. Speed. First and foremost, yes, anyone going at bullet speed into wall will indeed get a rude awakening looney toons style. One would hope, however, if you did achieve such a speed, that you'd know better than jettison yourself into a wall. So yes, I'm aware of the risks of moving at such a speed. But that doesn't stop people from wanting to achieve it. That said, no, as a Genin, its just a ten percent speed increase bound.

As to multiple, think of a pinball. Ricocheting of surfaces, that is. A ninja bounding off of multiple surfaces, utilizing individual Shunpo bursts in order to bounce off of surfaces. Each time his feet making contact with the surface, immediately bursting off of it towards another. Naturally, each step would use chakra according to the cost. So, what I mean is sub-sequence bursts of speeds after the initial without stopping. For example, instead of moving towards a wall and just smashing yourself into it, instead say spinning around to land feet first onto it, then immediately flash stepping off of it. However, by no means does it mean you'll be able to anyway find some loophole for infinite bounds or something silly to that effect.

I can't answer that question, I'm afraid, until you guys determine two things for me. One, what level of speed does one need to reach to do so. Quick Speed describes ninjas with a 40% increase in speed being able to become difficult to see. But people have also told me that Chunin are automatically faster than Genins by default, presumably not counting SCs or Jutsus. So you'd have to tell me how much faster ninjas would get with rank. Strictly speaking though, a Genin will hardly be impossible to see utilizing this technique, particularly without a Speed SC.

I've had other D-rank techniques here approved that involve a flurry of blows. A number wasn't previously requested for them, so I've no idea what the appropriate number would be. Since the technique is somewhat speed dependent, technically the number should be a varying amount which increases presumably with rank and technique. But I dislike making techniques based on, say, D-S unless their flavor fits it. I've changed Insane to Rapid, as it sounds less extreme for a D-rank I think :3

Here's my viewpoint. If a Ninja has enough strength to break steel with his barehands, why exactly is such a feet impossible for him to do the same with a sword, or other weapon? At any rate, very few ninjas of such a level would use a normal sword to do such a feet, but they could probably accomplish it any way. And wouldn't an S-rank Ninja be the point where you've taken your level to the highest possible? I mean, that is the point of ranks right? Measuring expertise?

I don't believe a technique should cost more chakra to become more powerful when its something that is reliant on the physical body. Rather, the purpose of these actually rather simple techniques is to be low-cost jutsus that remain useful regardless of the level, as they are power dependent, not chakra, as most weapons and taijutsu is. You could make that a case for them deserving D-S, but once more I find that an inelegant way of going about things, and they shouldn't cost more chakra to become stronger, as once more, they're body-based, not chakra-based. This applies more or less to most of the techniques you ask about.

Oh. Damn. Now I have to make another random jutsu o.o'

D-rank level in more or less all cases. If you need a more specific example for heat and cold, not sweat in a desert and not get frostbite in a tundra. Otherwise, D-rank applies for all things it protects against. Nothing overpowered, just a simple hand barrier. Think of it like a chakra glove, solid and more or less vacuum sealed against the elements, if brittle to any reaaaaaal force. And I foresee someone at some point in my life spitting D-rank acid at my face. Sue me for being paranoid Razz

And no. It doesn't suck in poisonous clouds.

As I said before, I was quite content with the power of tag, so going from five to three is quite acceptable.

The barrier doesn't involve seals. Its more akin to the barrier utilized by the Sound Four to trap Orochimaru and the Third Hokage in that it doesn't involve written letters or inscribed seals, but instead simply a projection of chakra.

I'm afraid you misread it. As Ivan asked before, multiple C-ranks (i.e 2 or more) OR a single B-rank will shatter the technique. As for the down side, immobility and the high chakra expense involved in projecting and maintaining it. That said, if you have a suggestion for a downside, shoot. Just keep in mind, no, it is not able to absorb multiple C-ranks. IT BREAKS when people use multiple C-ranks or a SINGLE B-rank technique. And by break, I mean the damage is slightly lessened, then smashing into my face. :3

Most seals had never been shown to require any upkeep after placing. Similarly, sealed weapons, jutsus, and items don't cost the user any chakra after they have been used. Most locked barriers and such also don't seem to tire the user after they have been created. Orochimaru was never shown to have been drained of chakra at a constant rate after having used his five element seal. May I ask then, why this specific seal should involve chakra drain upon the user?

I don't mind the visor being C-rank.

Clarify something for me. A maximum of 2 C-rank WEAPONS, or ITEMS. Or both. Because I'm kinda against the visor going to C-rank if it keeps me from having weapons Razz

Does being a Fuuin users not effect my ability to carry weapons at all? I mean, I only carry one C-rank weapon on my direct personally, and the other 4 are specifically for one jutsu. They're more of a set than anything else. I suppose I could just make one particularly well-supplied Umbrella, but I would hope being a Weapon and Fuuin specialist would grant me more leniency. I'm just trying to imitate Shigure, the Rain Genin who carried four Umbrellas for his technique.


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PostSubject: Re: Shiro - [Kiri Genin] Thu 31 Jan 2013, 7:45 pm

I'm just going to pop in for a second and than I'm leaving you to MsMoney

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Here's my viewpoint. If a Ninja has enough strength to break steel with his barehands, why exactly is such a feet impossible for him to do the same with a sword, or other weapon? At any rate, very few ninjas of such a level would use a normal sword to do such a feet, but they could probably accomplish it any way. And wouldn't an S-rank Ninja be the point where you've taken your level to the highest possible? I mean, that is the point of ranks right? Measuring expertise?

While it is true that a high level ninja can break a sword with his hands or another sword, the jutsu alone cannot make this. So a D rank jutsu cannot say that a ninja can cut through steel with this jutsu, but once you get the SC you need to do so, you can write it down while you're RPing.

What I'm saying is, a jutsu should be made and described for that rank only, also taking in consideration that the user has no SC at all. So a D raked jutsu cannot actually say what a higher ranked ninja could do with it, only what can it do at it's rank.

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PostSubject: Re: Shiro - [Kiri Genin] Thu 31 Jan 2013, 10:44 pm

Fair point. I await on Money~
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PostSubject: Re: Shiro - [Kiri Genin] Sat 02 Feb 2013, 3:19 am


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    Um. Point in informing people my weakness? Can't they figure it out on their own? Plus, can't say off-hand what my weakness is. I tend to make balanced characters. Umm...Have boobs?

    This is something everybody are required to do, gives us staff insight on your character. It is OC information, so nobody is going to be using it in their first post against your character anyway. And if they would, we the staff would be here to wtf pwn them with a whip. So, if you find it fitting to add boobs in there then go for it. Seems like he is the type to get distracted by them anyways TEEHEE


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    One would hope, however, if you did achieve such a speed, that you'd know better than jettison yourself into a wall.
    It is specified in your jutsu that there is little to no control over stopping or turning. So it has little to do with sense, if say an object was hidden away from their sight or a sudden earth wall would be rising up from the ground.

    If you word your 'multiple theory' that way, I am afraid I would be insisting even more that this jutsu be ranked D - A (or S). As a Genin would not be able to have the ability nor physical attributes to be able to control the speed up to that level to make sure that his legs would not break upon the impact. As, again, I will mention that it says already in the jutsu description that there is little control to begin with once the speeding has started. There would be a cool-down needed, and a specific post count for it's use, as I don't see anything fair with having someone speed bursting all over the place without stopping (even if at a higher rank). Plus it would most probably be straining for the body.

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    I can't answer that question, I'm afraid, until you guys determine two things for me. One, what level of speed does one need to reach to do so. Quick Speed describes ninjas with a 40% increase in speed being able to become difficult to see. But people have also told me that Chunin are automatically faster than Genins by default, presumably not counting SCs or Jutsus. So you'd have to tell me how much faster ninjas would get with rank. Strictly speaking though, a Genin will hardly be impossible to see utilizing this technique, particularly without a Speed SC.

    This technique always just adds 10% to the speed of your character. It is a D rank technique that stays D rank, and therefore it depends on what your user will know (SC for an example) if he can be a blur or not. He can only use it once per post and not more often than 2 posts in a row before a cool down would be needed. So if you wont rank it anything else than D, remove the part that says
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    the Skilled user's may project themselves forward to the point where they are no longer seen, and may utilize multiple steps in their attack.
    and also mention what I said about the usage.


    Also, to answer your questions (as I would find it rude to ignore them), then I have never heard of a ninja gaining speed by simply gaining a rank. A Chuunin gets his rank based on his leader skills and overall tactics. And to the other question, then I would imagine that they would gain the similar speed as that of Flash Speed.


  3. Things may have changed around here since you last got something approved. And I require -all- details, as I don't like things being vague.

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    The second principle of Senkouken is to cut. To slice through resistance, be it stone, steel, or flesh.
    A D rank technique does not give your guy the strength nor speed to be able to cut through stone, steel, or flesh. As Ivan pointed out before, it depends more on the weapon or SC that your character would have. If you insist on keeping those attributes, I must also insist on you ranking the technique D - S.

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    technically the number should be a varying amount which increases presumably with rank and technique.
    Then add those varying numbers please, depending on the rank of the character.

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    At any rate, very few ninjas of such a level would use a normal sword to do such a feet, but they could probably accomplish it any way. And wouldn't an S-rank Ninja be the point where you've taken your level to the highest possible? I mean, that is the point of ranks right? Measuring exp
    ertise?

    I would like to point out that a normal sword can break no matter the rank of it's user. Even if an S rank ninja is holding an every day katana, doesn't make the materials of the katana any different.

    I would also like to mention that you can always keep improving, no matter how high the rank.

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    I don't believe a technique should cost more chakra to become more powerful when its something that is reliant on the physical body. Rather, the purpose of these actually rather simple techniques is to be low-cost jutsus that remain useful regardless of the level, as they are power dependent, not chakra, as most weapons and taijutsu is. You could make that a case for them deserving D-S, but once more I find that an inelegant way of going about things, and they shouldn't cost more chakra to become stronger, as once more, they're body-based, not chakra-based. This applies more or less to most of the techniques you ask about.

    If the technique is only reliant on the body, why use chakra in the first place? If you are using chakra, it will fall under the rest of the chakra techniques. The more the chakra cost, the stronger/more effective.

    What I aim mostly for is that he cannot use just a simple D or C rank sword, as they will be able to break regardless of who is holding them.


    What is underlining about these techniques, is that they are only D rank. It depends on your character himself, his rank and overall skills, how far he can take these attributes of his. If you insist on having them only D rank then remove the
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    'To slice through resistance, be it stone, steel, or flesh.'
    from Barrage and Draw.

  5. Add the temperatures into the technique then please. And also, the code seems to have gotten messed up for the Kodate [ Small Shield ] technique. Mention also in the jutsu that it can't suck in poisonous clouds. And add that it only protects against D rank things (so people know that also applies for the poison, acid etc)

  6. You have yet to edit the technique into 3 bombs.

  7. If the barrier doesn't have a sealing method, why is it marked as fuuinjutsu?

    The barrier which was made by the Sound 4 was made from purple flames, and had to be utilized by 4 powerful ninja. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Four_Violet_Flames_Battle_Encampment Granted, yours is smaller.

    However, it is classified as a ninjutsu. You can't use ninjutsu (at this rank at least) as you don't have ninjutsu as a specialty. So either the technique has to be removed, or you add a seal.

    This technique should only protect against C rank and lower, and specify in your jutsu that it takes 1 C rank attack to break it. (it would absorb the whole C rank attack so it wouldn't reach the user).

  8. I would answer that by saying that you are restricting the opponent's movements. In order to keep the opponent from being able to resist the seal you will need to keep feeding it chakra.

    Also, how exactly does the opponent get rid of these seals?

    The five element seal fed off of Naruto's chakra. Also, as a quote from a source;
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    This is because an odd-numbered seal creates an imbalance when placed on top of an even-numbered seal.

    This is not something Orochimaru would have to struggle to keep up, as the seal imbalanced the other and he is in no way restricting Naruto physically, like you are with this technique.

  9. Equipment and weapons don't exactly fall under the same category, usually items and such are considered one part of your inventory and the weapons the other. But that depends entirely on the item in question if we consider it C rank and therefore counting towards the limit of weapons you can hold.

    The visor is considered C rank, as it is a bit of an OP item. It can protect your guy against fatal poisons and gases, giving great advantage over many ninjas who use those kind of jutsu.

    Sadly no, being a Fuuin user does not give any leniency towards how many weapons/items you can carry.
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PostSubject: Re: Shiro - [Kiri Genin] Tue 05 Feb 2013, 7:10 am

1. Weakness to bewbs added~

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It is specified in your jutsu that there is little to no control over stopping or turning. So it has little to do with sense, if say an object was hidden away from their sight or a sudden earth wall would be rising up from the ground.
Point noted. But that's for them to recognize, not for me to state so they can plan around it Razz

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specific post count
Explain what you mean by specific post count? As in number of times used during one turn? That would naturally be noted if one was to use it in multiple instances


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This technique always just adds 10% to the speed of your character. It is a D rank technique that stays D rank, and therefore it depends on what your user will know (SC for an example) if he can be a blur or not. He can only use it once per post and not more often than 2 posts in a row before a cool down would be needed. So if you wont rank it anything else than D, remove the part that says

Agreed, I've never indicated otherwise that the technique only grants a ten percent increase in maximum speed. It does not increase the amount of speed a user has. But ten percent of fifty is more than ten percent of forty~

What specifically are you asking me to mention about usage? You wrote quite a bit concerning usage in this thread.

The Kawarimi no Jutsu requires no cooldown yet allows a ninja to effectively teleport ten meters away from where he was. While it has a condition requirement of naming an object during the thread, it can technically be used repeatedly with no drawback. (Save, I'd imagine, the complaints of the opponent and moderators of the site) This technique involves a less immediate and instant effect, yet deserves greater restriction. Why?

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The second principle of Senkouken is to cut. To slice through resistance, be it stone, steel, or flesh.
Its a statement, not a description. You're right. The technique doesn't provide strength. Its a principle. And the technique is the user attempting to achieve said principle. How well he does it, as we've already said, it dependent upon the ninja. So I will not remove that specific section, as it doesn't pertain to the power of the technique. However, I will not be cutting what I shouldn't be, I promise. But no, no D-S will be happening if I can help it.

Also, the material can be irrelevant. A sword is a sword. A blade with weight. If a pen dropped from an empire state building can kill someone (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2111467/A-penny-thrown-skyscraper-WOULDNT-kill-ballpoint-pen-would.html#axzz2JzphHU3w), then a sword used by a ninja with the ability to move faster than the eye can see should be able to swing his sword fast enough to break many things. Now, will the sword break? Sure! Katana's can actually be quite brittle. But that doesn't mean they don't do damage before they do :3

4. Here's the thing- If you guys actually made Taijutsu and Weaponry cost the supposedly little chakra that they're described to be, they'd probably be overpowered. Being able to break stuff Tsunade style with the smallest amount of chakra would be ridiculous. I've also treated Taijutsu and Weaponry, instead, as deserving equivalent costs. I also note that for the most part, I almost always remark chakra being utilized in my techniques in some way or fashion. The different between weaponry and taijutsu as compared to Ninjutsu, however, is that they are more reliant on the body. A sickly feeble boy would theoretically be able to use a fireball just as well as a buff behemoth. (Assuming it isn't a lung/oral/throat sickness or chakra-related) But the taijutsu and weaponry are different, as the attacks themselves are derived from a more physical basis, with exceptions like Gentle Fist, which can completely disregard physical force of their moves. Chakra is energy at its simplest form, so if my arm moves, then it should cost me energy, even if tiny amounts. But muscles are different because your muscles get stronger without necessarily drawing energy. Or more appropriately, your body becomes better able to use that energy and do more with it. Thus is the power of exercise~!

5. Um. I'll happy add in the D-rank note, but why the hell would you believe the shield has the ability to suck in poisonous gases? Please explain how anyone could come to that conclusion from reading this technique on its own? I have a jutsu for sucking gases, and its come after, not before Kodate, so I can't really see how anyone leisurely reading through my techniques would come to the conclusion, "ZOMG, GAS-SUCKING HAND SHIELD!" I mean that without offense, I'm thrown off by the request O.o

6. We've also yet to finish clarifying ever thing I've to edit. But done now.

7. To be perfectly honest, I wonder...Through out the canon, Barriers have always seems to be oriented in conjunction with seals. To the point where I, and others I've met, have always sort've associated with barriers BEING fuuinjutsu. I've never really thought as them as being particularly different. You can laugh at it, but to me, most pure chakra barriers I default assume them to be a form of Fuuinjutsu, if only because those who can use them almost always ARE seal users. In addition, almost all barrier jutsus involve some writing or seal, save for perhaps the Violet Flame one, which you can argue who utilizes the Sound Four themselves as the symbolic aspects of the technique. Hmm. A sobering reflection. But I suppose technically barriers may be jutsus without being Fuuin, and assuming them to be Fuuin by default isn't an assumption I should make simply because I've always done so. Edited the technique to involve a seal placed upon the ground. I'll not make this harder for us :3

8. How do people remove seals? According to Site Guides,
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• Fuuinjutsu (Sealing Techniques): Techniques that fall into this category deal with sealing various different things into objects or living beings. An example being one may seal a weapon into a scroll for more convenient travelling, that actually being very common in the ninja world. However, they’re just as capable with unsealing various different things from objects or living beings. An example being one may unseal someone else’s seal should it be equal or lesser rank/power. Elemental chakra can be used with Fuuinjutsu.
So. This would suggest other seal users would be able to unseal Seals. I.e. Jiraiya unsealing Orochimaru's fuuinjutsu with one of his own. Sooooo, however anyone elses Seals on this place that you guys approve are allowed to be removed is how it is removed?

Um. Affecting someone's opponent seems very physical, when we consider chakra to be energy, which allows people to move, and is interwoven with the body's circulatory systems. I mean, just look at the Hyuuga- People aren't supposed to be able to move if you block off all their chakra from flowing through their body. Also, if I recall right, if you run out of chakra you're typically unable to move your body or fight? Granted, the purpose of that one was specifically to prevent Fox chakra, rather than Narutos. -Nods-

Now. Chakra consumption. Lemme guess. Saying "Why can't I have my seals feed off my opponent's chakra?" will get a "You're not Orochimaru!" and a "That Seals A-rank!" and a "Weights and chakra sealing are different bro!" Razz If so, I'll do the usual +2 per turn added to the jutsu that I assume you'd like added on. Although I'll ask what sort've seals used on opponents count as not requiring you to "Struggle" to keep up. Not because I feel this technique should, but for future reference. Fuuin seems a little unelaborated on in the guides. Correct me if I'm wrong. :0

9. You're asking me to reduce the number to 3 C-rank flashbombs. But you're telling me ninjas can only have 2 C-rank items (Which you told me included weapons and the visor), but don't they count too? They're in scrolls, but so are the Umbrellas. So why exactly am I allowed to have the flashbombs, be they 3 or 4, but not allowed to have the Umbrellas? Or did you miss that they were C-rank? Also, could I request an update in the rules in the future to clarify that the 2 C-rank weapons also applies to accessories and general items? And maybe Flashbombs? So confused Mad

Also, it says in the guide that
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Note: This limit does not include equipment, and is strictly for weapons and weaponry users.
What qualifies as Equipment? You said the C-rank rule applies to items and weapons, but the guide says it applies to weapons but not equipment.

Sorry for the delay. Was alot to process in my head. Naruto lore, physics, site guidelines. You poor moderators. I've nearly forgotten what hell I can put you guys through xD
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PostSubject: Re: Shiro - [Kiri Genin] Mon 11 Feb 2013, 3:43 am


  1. *Thumbs up* Resolved.

  2. Yes, specific post count would mean how many posts in a row he could use the technique. Because I don‘t see anything fair with being able to use it post after post after post (even if you can only use it once in every post). It would need to have some limit, and therefore a cool down after a certain post count. (and then I refer to the part where I suggested 2 posts in a row before a cool down would be needed)

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    Agreed, I've never indicated otherwise that the technique only grants a ten percent increase in maximum speed. It does not increase the amount of speed a user has. But ten percent of fifty is more than ten percent of forty~
    And good, then we both agree that you don‘t need the “hard to be seen“ part in the technique as it really just depends on the character and his skills/SC‘s if he can be seen or not.

    The usage part was mainly about the post count and cool down. 

    Kawarimi was nerfed to "Requires the user mention the object they wish to later switch place with in their opening post", which makes the jutsu near impossible to use. Aka, it‘s more of a „once in a thread“ using thing.

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    The second principle of Senkouken is to cut. To slice through resistance, be it stone, steel, or flesh.

    As you pointed out yourself, it’s simply a statement. The technique doesn’t add to the strength, as this technique is a principle. Then why not take out this part I have quoted? If it depends on the ninja, and not on the technique, it has no place in the description of the technique. It’s like if I write a bunch of techniques and always add “and with this technique it is possible to break a bone” or “and this technique gives the ability to break someone’s jaw” if I am writing a taijutsu punching technique. This is all something that –can- happen, but doesn’t necessarily happen. It only depends on the person that is using the technique.

    Surely weapons can do damage before breaking, but it is my belief that it depends on the user if that happens or not. His experience with a weapon, an SC perhaps to further enhance his skill. A normal Genin with little experience could probably do little to steel with a normal katana; and would most likely damage or break the blade.


  4. I do get your point on that, I simply have a huge issue with a statement like
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    To slice through resistance, be it stone, steel, or flesh.'
    in such a basic technique. When you add such a sentence to the description, you give a hint of some ‘rank up’ of the technique in the future; when it doesn’t have that option.

  5. xD lawl. It’s not that I would believe it would be capable of such a thing. It’s simply the fact that we want –everything- stated. No matter how ridiculous it is. Things have to be foolproof on this site; and thus all the little and ridiculous details have to be added. I appreciate you working with me on this.

  6. Solved.

  7. There is a thing that’s referred to as Barrier Ninjutsu, is that something what you are talking about? http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Barrier_Ninjutsu
    But solved!

  8. So, I got it clarified that only fuuinjutsu users can dispel seals from other fuuinjutsu users. So yeah, it’s only that or if there is something specified in the technique itself that says “if this or that much chakra is put into the seal it can be dispelled.”

    If I got what you mean, then the reason people can’t move after using up their chakra is because they have totally blown out their stamina.

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    Now. Chakra consumption. Lemme guess. Saying "Why can't I have my seals feed off my opponent's chakra?" will get a "You're not Orochimaru!" and a "That Seals A-rank!" and a "Weights and chakra sealing are different bro!"

    Weights and chakra sealing are different bro!
    But in all seriousness, they are. xD And it would be something higher ranked, although I doubt the pedophile Orochimaru would be pulled up as well.

    That‘s a good question thurr mistur. Anything that doesn‘t physically disable the opponent for a prelonged period of a time would be the best thing I can come up with right at the top of my head.

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    You're asking me to reduce the number to 3 C-rank flashbombs.
    I am pretty sure I never asked you to do that. O,o
    Ninja can have two C rank weapons that are of their main range. And now it's up to us mods to deem if an item can possibly do enough harm/usage in battle to count towards weapon limit or not.

    Now the flashbombs count as a set, so those two of them count only as 1 towards your limit.

    The umbrellas count as weapons, and therefore you have 4 of C rank weapons there extra (they do not come as a set like the flashbombs).

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    Note: This limit does not include equipment, and is strictly for weapons and weaponry users.
    as said before, this was added after my post on your profile so yeah I can understand your confusion. Q_q

    Equipment counts towards items you typically do not directly use as a weapon; sunglasses, a radio, the scrolls, training weights etc.

    As things were resolved, your visor now does not count towards the weapon limit.

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PostSubject: Re: Shiro - [Kiri Genin] Mon 11 Feb 2013, 7:28 am

Batto description altered

Danmaku (Now Senman) has had description altered

Senkou (Formerly Shunpo) is now a C-rank technique that increases speed by twenty percent.

Senbon Shower removed. Two encyclopedia techniques have replaced it.

Visor description altered to point out it protects the eyes

Scroll Contents changed.

I ask you how to rule an opponent who leaves a fight with the Heavy Seal placed upon their body. What would happen?
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PostSubject: Re: Shiro - [Kiri Genin] Mon 11 Feb 2013, 6:20 pm


  • Senkou is now basically just another form of the Speed SC. I'm afraid that just wont do.
    Speed
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    Even if it's just a single burst of speed, this technique allows a little 'bending the rules' towards the SC. I was willing to work with 10% boost for a single short movement and 2 posts in all before it would have a cool down. And also to remove the part where the user may not be seen. This C rank one, I will flat out deny based on what I said here before.


  • Name: Hakushiro [White Castle] I remember asking you to change this
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    when multiple C-ranks or a B-rank based technique is used upon it.

    into =
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    This technique should only protect against C rank and lower, and specify in your jutsu that it takes 1 C rank attack to break it. (it would absorb the whole C rank attack so it wouldn't reach the user.

  • Name: Kodate [ Small Shield] Also remember to put the exact temperatures in here.

    If you were waiting with making the edits until we had come to some conclusions, then my apologies but it really is easier to edit right along the way.

    The user would be able to rp that they went to the hospital / or any fuuinjutsu and got the seals removed. They could just as well say in their next thread how and where they got the seals removed.

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PostSubject: Re: Shiro - [Kiri Genin] Mon 11 Feb 2013, 9:40 pm

Sorry, lots of things to keep in mind. Edits made to Senkou, doing the others, albeit slightly different in phrasing. I am by no means trying to argue with you on any of what you're asking for, they've just slipped my mind. '^.^

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The user would be able to rp that they went to the hospital / or any fuuinjutsu and got the seals removed. They could just as well say in their next thread how and where they got the seals removed.
In which case, if I was to choose to stop maintaining the chakra cost, why would the seal fade in battle? The two sort've of seem like they both shouldn't make sense. Granted, I know maintaining costs are supposed to be "Balanced". I'm just saying its kinda quirky, lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Shiro - [Kiri Genin] Thu 14 Feb 2013, 2:06 am

No problem Smile

Only one thing I want to ask of you (really sorry about the delaying of approval) is to change the % in Senkou to 'one fifth increase of full sprint speed' since the 20 is 1/5th of the 100. The reason I am asking for this is because apparently the SC will be changed and the % taken out and they will rely on multiples instead.

Also, sorry about my answer last time as I forgot to add into there that of course if you would simply stop feeding the seal Chakra then it would go away right after the battle. Only if you would so choose to keep feeding it, would the other user have to rp that he went to have it removed or something of the likes.
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PostSubject: Re: Shiro - [Kiri Genin] Thu 14 Feb 2013, 9:39 am

Adam's question has been answered. Senkou's has been edited. Anything else?
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PostSubject: Re: Shiro - [Kiri Genin] Fri 15 Feb 2013, 3:07 am

(2/2) approved.

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PostSubject: Re: Shiro - [Kiri Genin] Fri 02 Aug 2013, 11:28 am


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